How to be a Professional Rule-breaker
Season 8 / Episode 4
Make it Thrive: The Company Culture Podcast
In this episode I chat to Alex Barker from the Be More Pirate movement. Alex is an author, facilitator, speaker, and coach who works across the private and public sector supporting people and organisations to rewrite their rules. In this session we discuss our workplace conditioning, and how to become a professional rule-breaker.
In this episode we cover;
- Workplace conditioning
- How to become a professional rule breaker
Quotes from Alex;
- “It’s not enough to know it intellectually, you literally have to unravel the conditioning that lives within you.”
- “Go and have conversations with people who don’t have your life experience.”
- “Your goal is less to slam doors, but to create precedents that work better.”
Resources mentioned in this podcast;
Our guest;

Alex Barker is an author, facilitator, speaker, and coach. She runs Be More Pirate, a book turned social movement and consultancy that helps people and organisations to rewrite their rules.
You can find Alex here;
Twitter > @alexandrabarke1 @bemorepirate
Instagram > @bemorepirate @alexandrabrkr
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How to be a Professional Rule-breaker
Season 8 / Episode 4
Make it Thrive: The Company Culture Podcast
In this episode I chat to Alex Barker from the Be More Pirate movement. Alex is an author, facilitator, speaker, and coach who works across the private and public sector supporting people and organisations to rewrite their rules. In this session we discuss our workplace conditioning, and how to become a professional rule-breaker.
In this episode we cover;
- Workplace conditioning
- How to become a professional rule breaker
Quotes from Alex;
- “It’s not enough to know it intellectually, you literally have to unravel the conditioning that lives within you.”
- “Go and have conversations with people who don’t have your life experience.”
- “Your goal is less to slam doors, but to create precedents that work better.”
Resources mentioned in this podcast;
Our guest;

Alex Barker is an author, facilitator, speaker, and coach. She runs Be More Pirate, a book turned social movement and consultancy that helps people and organisations to rewrite their rules.
You can find Alex here;
Twitter > @alexandrabarke1 @bemorepirate
Instagram > @bemorepirate @alexandrabrkr
Thank You For Listening!
Leave an honest review on iTunes. Your ratings and
reviews really help, and we read each one.
Ask a question about this episode by emailing us
here.